"I Don't Like Repeat Offenders...

Annie Oakley wrote:

BTW...I'm still interested in Nugent's credentials. Is he a professor or senior lecturer?

More Obama bashing...yet nothing on this? Good defense, yet again!

At least I was correct... Call it what you please... Like I said, defense WINS...

Lucas McCain wrote:

At least I was correct... Call it what you please... Like I said, defense WINS...

Good for you on being correct!

Still nothing else, huh?

I've seen Ted debate on the senate floor and he was the smartest man in the room... It was quite comical to see the senators squirming in their seats when he proved them wrong time and again.....

I can't help the fact Obama is a proven liar... Are you OK with his lies, or think he is above or doesn't deserve any bashing ???

Lucas McCain wrote:

I've seen Ted debate on the senate floor and he was the smartest man in the room... It was quite comical to see the senators squirming in their seats when he proved them wrong time and again.....

I can't help the fact Obama is a proven liar... Are you OK with his lies, or think he is above or doesn't deserve any bashing ???

I'm just waiting on the evidence for Nugent, as per the topic at hand. I've spent enough time off topic as it is.

I'm sure Ted is not "credentialed" in constitutional law... High school education at most is all I can find, but the man is a freak on the constitution itself.. He continually out-debates the so called experts and has done his homework quite well.

I have no doubt that he is knowledgeable about the 2nd amendment. I'm curious as to his knowledge on the rest of it.

I'll try to find you some stuff CSPAN

Lucas McCain wrote:

I'll try to find you some stuff CSPAN

I'd like to hear this evidence as well. Also, Obama is a "proven liar". Really? How? And who do you support for the white house that is pure as the driven snow?

Did you not read the entire thread???? Obama said he was a professor.. He lied... I guess it's not a big lie so it don't rate as much as his several hundred other lies.... I do agree that most in politics are liars...

Lucas McCain wrote:

Did you not read the entire thread???? Obama said he was a professor.. He lied... I guess it's not a big lie so it don't rate as much as his several hundred other lies.... I do agree that most in politics are liars...

Yes, I did. Did you? The University of Chicago called him a professor. I guess they are liars too? And why would he lie about something like that anyway? And why do you and some others insist on this meaningless nitpicking of everything the man does. Does it serve some importance that I am missing? And what are these several hundred other lies he has told?? I'm all ears...

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Was Barack Obama really a constitutional law professor?
When I was in law school, I addressed all of my course instructors as "professors," regardless of their rank or formal position in the school academic hierarchy (tenured professor, assistant professor, adjunct professor, lecturer, etc.). Was Obama exaggerating or factually wrong in referring to himself as a "constitutional law professor" at the University of Chicago Law School even though his official title was lecturer?
A:

His formal title was "senior lecturer," but the University of Chicago Law School says he "served as a professor" and was "regarded as" a professor.
Sen. Obama, who has taught courses in constitutional law at the University of Chicago, has regularly referred to himself as "a constitutional law professor," most famously at a March 30, 2007, fundraiser when he said, "I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution." A spokesman for the Republican National Committee immediately took exception to Obama’s remarks, pointing out that Obama’s title at the University of Chicago was "senior lecturer" and not "professor."

Recently, Hillary Clinton's campaign has picked up on this charge. In a March 27 conference call with reporters, Clinton spokesman Phil Singer claimed:

Singer (March 27): Sen. Obama has often referred to himself as “a constitutional law professor” out on the campaign trail. He never held any such title. And I think anyone, if you ask anyone in academia the distinction between a professor who has tenure and an instructor that does not, you’ll find that there is … you’ll get quite an emotional response.

The campaign also sent out an e-mail quoting an Aug. 8, 2004, column in the Chicago Sun-Times that criticized Obama for calling himself a professor when, in fact, the University of Chicago faculty page listed him as “a senior lecturer (now on leave)." The Sun-Times said, "In academia, there is a vast difference between the two titles. Details matter." The Clinton campaign added that the difference between senior lecturers and professors is that "professors have tenure while lecturers do not."

We agree that details matter, and also that the formal title of "professor" is not lightly given by academic institutions. However, on this matter the University of Chicago Law School itself is not standing on formality, and is siding with Obama.

Due to numerous press inquiries on the matter, the school released a carefully worded statement saying that for his 12 years there he was considered to be "a professor."

UC Law School statement: The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as "Senior Lecturer." From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers have high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.

Contrary to what the Clinton campaign claimed, not all professors have tenure. For instance, academics with the title of "assistant professor" typically work for between five and seven years before being reviewed for tenure.

Furthermore, Obama was not merely an "instructor" as Phil Singer stated. As a "senior lecturer," Obama was in good company: The six other faculty members with the title include the associate dean of the law school and Judge Richard Posner, who is widely considered to be one of the nation's top legal theorists.

-Joe Miller

Update March 28: As originally written this item stated flatly that the law school "confirms that Obama was a professor." We have rewritten the item in parts to more accurately reflect the nuance in the law school's news release.
Sources
Farrington, Brendan. "Obama: Bush Not Respecting Constitution." The San Francisco Chronicle, 30 March 2007. 27 March 2008.

Sweet, Lynn. "Sweet Column Reprise. Obama's Book: What's Real, What's Not." Chicago Sun Times, 8 August 2004. 27 March 2008.

University of Chicago Law School. "Law School Faculty." The University of Chicago Law School Online Catalog, 14 May 2007. 27 March 2008.

Then why was his title not professor??? Like I said, not a big lie.. Just adds to the long list I've posted in previous threads...

Since no proof has been given as to Nugent's vast knowledge of the constitution AND it only keeps getting off track, I will assume that this one is finished. Feel free to start a new thread debating any pertinent differences between the words "professor" and "senior lecturer."