So much for everyone thinking that Obama was being buddies with Chavez

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Just days after reestablishing diplomatic ties with Venezuela, President Hugo Chavez is accusing the U.S. of staging a coup in Honduras as President Obama expressed concern over President Manuel Zelaya's arrest.

Zelaya was arrested and forced into exile on Sunday after pressing ahead with a constitutional referendum that would have allowed for his re-election. The referendum had been judged illegal by Honduras' highest court and was opposed widely through political and military circles. Zelaya had fired the chief of the country's armed forces, Romeo Vásquez Velásquez, when he refused to help with the referendum.

Soldiers took away Zelaya, still in his pajamas, from the presidential palace Sunday morning and put him on a plane to San Jose, Costa Rica, where he planned to seek political asylum.

Chavez, who succeeded on his second try to push a similar referendum that allows his indefinite re-election, lashed out at the U.S. and Obama in Caracas, alleging "the Yankee empire had a lot to do" with the "coup d'etat" against his fellow leftist leader.

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Interesting... I thought Obama was going to make every one like us.. Now his foreign policy is as bad as his domestic policies..

Lucas McCain wrote:

Interesting... I thought Obama was going to make every one like us.. Now his foreign policy is as bad as his domestic policies..

Since when did anyone say his policies were going to make EVERYONE like us. Give me a break Lucas.

That seemed to be a big point the left used to bash Bush.. Now it doesn't matter?? Typical liberal flip-flopping... Give me a break..

Lucas McCain wrote:

That seemed to be a big point the left used to bash Bush.. Now it doesn't matter?? Typical liberal flip-flopping... Give me a break..

You are over simplifying something that is bigger than being buddies with your next door neighbor Lucas. Barack Obama is working on diplomacy and trying to make things better with our allies and with other countries who don't trust us. There is a big difference between trying to mend some fences with other countries and wanting to take them out for a beer.

He seems to be making it worse... Even some of our allies distrust Obama.. Israel being a good example...

Lucas McCain wrote:

He seems to be making it worse... Even some of our allies distrust Obama.. Israel being a good example...

He's making it worse?

Thanks for the laugh there. It was getting far too serious on here!

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2009/06/obamas-approval-rating-in-israel-goes.html
His approval with the Israelis is 6%... Pretty dismal..

Lucas McCain wrote:

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2009/06/obamas-approval-rating-in-israel-goes.html
His approval with the Israelis is 6%... Pretty dismal..

I've seen you comment about that poll before I think. Do you have the link to the actual poll because I can't seem to find it. I'd like to know who did the poll and who pays their paychecks. Also, do you honestly believe the Israelis are going to be thrilled that Obama is talking with the Muslim world? Of course not. I mean it's ridiculous to sit there and say that Obama is making things worse all over this world when you can't get much worse than what Bush brought us to. At least Obama is trying to make sure we still have some allies if we ever needed them. And big whoop about that poll. It's one tiny poll done by who knows about a country that has always been a ticking time bomb. Remember, they are part of the reason there has never been peace in that region. But saying that Obama is making more enemies than Bush because of one dinky poll after a speech to the Muslim world hardly reflects the whole picture. Once again, you are over simplifying.

Remember, they are part of the reason there has never been peace in that region.


Wow!! That says it all....

Lucas McCain wrote:

Remember, they are part of the reason there has never been peace in that region.


Wow!! That says it all....

Umm, are you saying that it isn't true?

^ Yep... It's not the Israelis lobbing rockets and mortars into other countries on a daily basis.. Why do you believe the turmoil in the middle-east is caused by the Israelis???

Lucas McCain wrote:

^ Yep... It's not the Israelis lobbing rockets and mortars into other countries on a daily basis.. Why do you believe the turmoil in the middle-east is caused by the Israelis???

I didn't say it was caused by them. I said they are a part of it. Apparently you've missed their attack and their land grabs forcing people out of their homes. Both sides are responsible for the mess over there.
What's this got to do with the original point I made? And where is the link to that poll, etc?

The poll, which has a margin of error of 4.5%, was conducted among a representative sample of 500 Israeli Jewish adults this week, following Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's speech in which he expressed his support for a demilitarized Palestinian state.

Another 50% of those sampled consider the policies of Obama's administration more pro-Palestinian than pro-Israeli, and 36% said the policies were neutral. The remaining 8% did not express an opinion.

The numbers were a stark contrast to the last poll published May 17, on the eve of the meeting between Netanyahu and Obama at the White House. In that poll, 31% labeled the Obama administration pro-Israel, 14% considered it pro-Palestinian and 40% said it was neutral. The other 15% declined to give an opinion.

By contrast, 88% of Jewish Israelis believe that the Bush administration was pro-Israel

Lucas McCain wrote:

The poll, which has a margin of error of 4.5%, was conducted among a representative sample of 500 Israeli Jewish adults this week, following Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's speech in which he expressed his support for a demilitarized Palestinian state.

Another 50% of those sampled consider the policies of Obama's administration more pro-Palestinian than pro-Israeli, and 36% said the policies were neutral. The remaining 8% did not express an opinion.

The numbers were a stark contrast to the last poll published May 17, on the eve of the meeting between Netanyahu and Obama at the White House. In that poll, 31% labeled the Obama administration pro-Israel, 14% considered it pro-Palestinian and 40% said it was neutral. The other 15% declined to give an opinion.

By contrast, 88% of Jewish Israelis believe that the Bush administration was pro-Israel

I saw that part already. I just want to see the link to the actual poll.....not just some article referring to it.

Lucas McCain wrote:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1245184872947

That's all I could find too. No actual link to the poll in question.

The Jerusalem Post is the one who conducted the poll... Scroll down to the polls and click on the one you want to see...

Lucas McCain wrote:

The Jerusalem Post is the one who conducted the poll... Scroll down to the polls and click on the one you want to see...

It was conducted by Smith Research (whomever that is) for the Jerusalem Post. I still don't understand why this poll is so important or how is shows that Obama has somehow failed in foreign policy. As I said before, of course they aren't going to like Obama addressing their enemies. It should be no big surprise. I guess it makes no difference that he was swept to power by 78% of American Jews. What that poll equals to is exactly jack squat. Israelis preferring McCain is no more relevant than Germans preferring Obama. Neither country's citizens get to vote for President of the United States. Besides, The Jerusalem Post is about like Fox News. Another news media trying to make some bucks off of negativity. I always wonder why so many republicans complain about the media and about the Hollywood elite except when one of the two says something positive about the republicans. Then suddenly they become relevant.

The I/P conflict isn't some stupid competition where you have to support either Israel or the Palestinians. I support the civilians on both sides who are victims of their respective leaderships.

Israel is just one example... Leaders from Russia, Venezuela, Iran and others have stated their distrust of Obama foreign policies...

Only 23 percent of Russians have confidence in Obama to do the right thing in international affairs, according to the University of Maryland's WorldPublicOpinion.org. Just 15 percent of the Russians polled said the U.S. is playing a positive role in the world; most said the United States abuses it power and makes Russia do what the U.S. wants.

TEHRAN (Reuters) – President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad accused Barack Obama on Thursday of behaving like his predecessor toward Iran and said there was not much point in talking to Washington unless the U.S. president apologized.

Lucas McCain wrote:

TEHRAN (Reuters) – President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad accused Barack Obama on Thursday of behaving like his predecessor toward Iran and said there was not much point in talking to Washington unless the U.S. president apologized.

The countries you named have always been on shaky ground with the US. It's nothing new. What's important is rebuilding the trust with the countries who lost confidence in us during Bush's regime. Our allies want to like us. As far as Iran, Venezuela, etc.. As long as they have crazy leaders, they are going to spout off crazy things. Besides, I thought you and the others didn't care about whether those countries liked us or not. You didn't want Obama to bow to them and let them have their way. Well, he's not, so you should be happy about that.