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PostSubject: A.C.O.R.N. More Corruption   A.C.O.R.N.  More Corruption I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 10, 2009 6:32 pm

Wonder how the left is going to make this one go away... Remember, this is your tax dollars at work..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdhRp5EGyNQ

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More ACORN busts.... http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking-news/story/1224631.html

How can Obama turn a blind eye to this and expect any respect???
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Beck kicks ACORN spokesman out of studio.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-53obYAjtgg

Not a big Beck fan... But this time he got it right..
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At least the senate is coming to their senses and putting a halt to Obama's "pet" project.. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/14/ap/congress/main5310900.shtml
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PostSubject: Re: A.C.O.R.N. More Corruption   A.C.O.R.N.  More Corruption I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 15, 2009 5:28 pm

It is getting about time that Obama renounce the actions of ACORN. It would help his credibility if he did with his past ties with the organization.



I am not going to hold my breath that he will though.
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Past ties with ACORN ???? Obama has always backed them.. They were set to get four BILLION more in tax payers money from the "stimulus" package....
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Lucas McCain wrote:
Past ties with ACORN ???? Obama has always backed them.. They were set to get four BILLION more in tax payers money from the "stimulus" package....

I missed that. Time for Obama to really renounce ACORN and stop being their sugardaddy.
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Past ties with ACORN ???? Obama has always backed them.. They were set to get four BILLION more in tax payers money from the "stimulus" package....

I missed that. Time for Obama to really renounce ACORN and stop being their sugardaddy.


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In criticizing the economic stimulus bill, Republicans have found an old villain: ACORN.

A frequent object of Republican derision and scorn during the presidential election, the Association of Community Organization for Reform Now (ACORN) has become a popular target in GOP attacks on the $819 billion, Democratic-backed economic stimulus plan.

Some Republicans say the plan could steer billions of federal dollars to this left-leaning community organizing group.

You remember ACORN. In the 2008 election campaign, ACORN was lambasted in many Republican circles for voter registration efforts that resulted in some fraudulent names (Mickey Mouse, it turns out, was not an eligible voter). ACORN leaders said they discovered the fake names, notified authorities and fired some workers who cut corners. Some Republican leaders claimed it was a willful effort to forward the group's liberal agenda.

So how does ACORN factor into the economic stimulus bill? Some Republican leaders have noted that a House version of the stimulus package includes $4.2 billion for "neighborhood stabilization." The Senate version of the bill calls for $2.2 billion. The money would be doled out to groups to buy up abandoned and foreclosed homes, to rehabilitate them and then sell or rent them out. The government already has such a program, but the money is only available to government agencies. The stimulus package would allow nonprofits to compete for this kind of work as well. Some Republicans view that as a backdoor attempt to fund groups like ACORN.

"The legislation could open billions of taxpayer dollars to left-wing groups like the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), which has been accused of voter fraud, is reportedly under federal investigation, and played a key role in the housing meltdown," House Republican Leader John Boehner said in a Jan. 26 news release.

Louisiana Republican Sen. David Vitter went one step further, telling Newsmax TV that "$4.2 billion dollars would be available to organizations like ACRON for so-called neighborhood revitalization. That's just political payoff, quite frankly, not in spite of their voter registration fraud activity, really because of it, in my opinion, in terms of support from some of the liberals in Congress."

We read the fine print from the House version of the stimulus package and saw no money designated for ACORN, or any other specific nonprofit organization. Kirstin Brost, a spokeswoman for the Democratic chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, said the lion's share of the neighborhood stabilization funds would go to local governments. But the authors of the stimulus plan decided to open the process to nonprofits, she said, because they have found that some local governments could not, or were not interested, in participating in the program.

"Some local governments were very good and some local governments didn't have the capacity to do it and the money just sat there," Brost said.

Under the House plan, nonprofits would be allowed to compete to do some of the work. They would have to prove they are "capable of moving the money out the door quickly and efficiently," Brost said. "They would have to go through stringent competition. They would have to use the money to purchase homes, renovate them and then rent them out or resell them. They couldn't use it for anything else. ... We absolutely have to do something about foreclosed homes."

If Democrats were trying to steer money to ACORN, say ACORN leaders, they sure picked an odd way to do it. ACORN has never done this type of foreclosure work, and according to ACORN's chief organizer, they don't plan to.

In response to Boehner's statement, ACORN chief organizer Bertha Lewis stated: "We watch with bemusement as he tries to gin up opposition to progressive solutions to America's deep economic crisis by accusing ACORN of doing something we have never done. We have not received neighborhood stabilization funds, have no plans to apply for such funds, and didn't weigh in on the pending rule changes."

Sister organization ACORN Housing Corp. has developed some housing in several cities, but it also has never done any foreclosure work.

"We theoretically could apply," said Richard Hayes, director of strategic projects for ACORN Housing. "But we would have to compete like everyone else. There is no guarantee we would be chosen."

Keep in mind, Hayes said, ACORN Housing and ACORN are separate corporate entities. They have separate boards and separate headquarters in different cities. So even if ACORN Housing were to apply for funds, it would not be comingled with ACORN funds for voter registration efforts.

"They are trying to imply there is money set aside for us," said Brian Kettenring, an ACORN spokesman. "That is a fabrication for political ends."

ACORN is obviously a negative buzzword in some conservative circles, and we think some Republicans are trying to capitalize on that to discredit the stimulus plan. Could ACORN Housing apply for some of the money? Sure. So could lots of other nonprofits. They'd have to compete, though. And they'd have to use the money to buy up abandoned or foreclosed homes, fix them up and resell or rent them.

Boehner's comments imply money is earmarked for ACORN (it's not) or that money would be funneled to suspect voter registration programs (it wouldn't). And so we rate his comment Barely True.

Rolling Eyes no no

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And it's also worth mentioning that Rep. Vitter is a complete and total fruitcake. He and Michelle Bachmann would make quit a pair. razz2
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Does your reply mean that you are actually supporting ACORN??? The white house along with the senate have denounced them... DOJ and FBI investigations to follow... Just another Obama sinking ship..
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You are changing the subject. You said ACORN is going to get $4 Billion dollars from the stimulus which is incorrect. I was just pointing that out.
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I said they were set to get more money but the senate stopped it.... Even the "article" you posted says they were to get 4.2 billion... Laughing
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Really, where does it say that? It says for buying up foreclosed homes, fixing them up and improving neighborhoods through "neighborhood stabilization". Where does it say ACORN? Heaven forbid that there be some group that goes around trying to get the super poor and minorities the right to vote! How horrible! Laughing Every time I bring up George W. Bush you and some others say...You need to move on and blah blah. And here you are still harping away about ACORN. Good grief, get over it. Dead Horse And can you give me some links where the white house and senate would denounce ACORN? I didn't realize the whole senate had denounced ACORN. And why would President Obama denounce ACORN if he apparently makes love to it every night like so many republicans seem to think? Or did this come from the previous REPUBLICAN white house? Rolling Eyes Razz And the DOJ and the FBI are investigating them? Do you have a link about that? I didn't know, I'm sure it's possible. Won't be the first time the government has gone on a wild goose chase on the tax payers time to make sure Mickey Mouse didn't vote for President Obama. Keep on spinning Lucas. Stir The Pot
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ACORN was BUSTED red handed.... So where is the spin??

Senate halts funding: http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090916/pl_politico/27208
Gibbs says ACORN unacceptable: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090916/ap_on_go_ot/us_congress_acorn

Obama blocks ACORN probe months ago: http://rashmanly.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/acorn-probe-blocked-by-obama-white-house-months-ago/

Since when did the poor and minorities lose their right to vote??? Laughing So far over 70 ACORN employees have been indicted for voter fraud.. Laughing Laughing
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Can you tell me what any of this has to do with our President?
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PostSubject: Re: A.C.O.R.N. More Corruption   A.C.O.R.N.  More Corruption I_icon_minitimeWed Sep 16, 2009 10:06 pm

http://ohiogop.blogs.com/state_of_the_union/2008/10/obamas-ties-to-acorn.html

“I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career,” he [Obama] told the group last November.

Indeed, in the early ’90s, Obama was recruited by Talbott herself to run training sessions for ACORN activists.

ACORN also got funding from two charities, the Woods Fund and the Joyce Foundation, when Obama served on their boards, and from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge – the radical “education reform” outfit Obama ran from ‘95 to ‘99.

Ironically, the group stood to be a key beneficiary of the goodies Democrats were loading into Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson’s rescue plan – including one demand that 20 percent of any profits the feds make from reselling mortgage securities go to fund groups like ACORN.

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/ny-times-acorn-obama-march-30-2009-times-pulled-story-obama-ties-to-acorn-house-judiciary-subcommittee-game-changer-story-anita-moncrief-confidential-informant-times-reporter-stephanie-stro/
Hundreds more..... Like I said... Obama's pet project.... And It's corrupt top to bottom...
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Lucas McCain wrote:
http://ohiogop.blogs.com/state_of_the_union/2008/10/obamas-ties-to-acorn.html

“I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career,” he [Obama] told the group last November.

Indeed, in the early ’90s, Obama was recruited by Talbott herself to run training sessions for ACORN activists.

ACORN also got funding from two charities, the Woods Fund and the Joyce Foundation, when Obama served on their boards, and from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge – the radical “education reform” outfit Obama ran from ‘95 to ‘99.

Ironically, the group stood to be a key beneficiary of the goodies Democrats were loading into Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson’s rescue plan – including one demand that 20 percent of any profits the feds make from reselling mortgage securities go to fund groups like ACORN.

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/ny-times-acorn-obama-march-30-2009-times-pulled-story-obama-ties-to-acorn-house-judiciary-subcommittee-game-changer-story-anita-moncrief-confidential-informant-times-reporter-stephanie-stro/
Hundreds more..... Like I said... Obama's pet project.... And It's corrupt top to bottom...

You make it sound like a program that has signed up millions of people to vote isn't expected to have a few bad apples. It's done far more bad than good Lucas. How angry are you at Halliburton and all their corruption? I can name tons of corporations, etc. that republicans support openly and are obviously corrupt but a few bad people in a good program suddenly makes our President bad? Give me a break.

Take a look at this
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It's done far more bad than good Lucas.

I totally agree with that statement.... thumb
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Lucas McCain wrote:
It's done far more bad than good Lucas.

I totally agree with that statement.... thumb

I meant far more good than bad. Thanks for ignoring everything else I said to point out a typo.

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This article sums it all up. There's really nothing else to be said. Truth no longer matters to some people. If Fox News or Rush Limbaugh, etc speak something, it becomes the gospel to their listeners. Who cares about facts, right Lucas? As long as the news is exciting and is against the other side, certain republicans would believe Barack Obama is from outer space if Beck told them he was. That is proven by the poll done on New Jersey republicans where 1/3 of them believe President Obama is the anti-Christ. Anyone who believes their nonsense is just plain gullible.

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Earlier this week, I wrote about how the Fox-News/Glenn-Beck/Rush-Limbaugh leadership trains its protesting followers to focus the vast bulk of their resentment and anxieties on largely powerless and downtrodden factions, while ignoring, and even revering, the outright pillaging by virtually omnipotent corporate interests that own and control their Government (and, not coincidentally, Fox News). It's hard to imagine a more perfectly illustrative example of all of that than the hysterical furor over ACORN.

ACORN has received a grand total of $53 million in federal funds over the last 15 years -- an average of $3.5 million per year. Meanwhile, not millions, not billions, but trillions of dollars of public funds have been, in the last year alone, transferred to or otherwise used for the benefit of Wall Street. Billions of dollars in American taxpayer money vanished into thin air, eaten by private contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan, led by Halliburton subsidiary KBR. All of those corporate interests employ armies of lobbyists and bottomless donor activities that ensure they dominate our legislative and regulatory processes, and to be extra certain, the revolving door between industry and government is more prolific than ever, with key corporate officials constantly ending up occupying the government positions with the most influence over those industries.

Exactly as one would expect, the prime beneficiaries of all of that pillaging continue to grow. The banks that almost brought the world economy to collapse but then received massive public largesse because they were "too big to fail" are now bigger than ever; as The Washington Post delicately put it: "The crisis may be turning out very well for many of the behemoths that dominate U.S. finance." Everything involving the government turns out well for these "behemoths" because they own and control the U.S. Government. Just this week, The Post detailed how the government and Wall St. are now so intertwined that banking executives are spending vast resources to increase their presence in Washington:

So, too, for [BlackRock Chairman Laurence] Fink, who said much hinges on his relationship with Washington. He often has talked to White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner and his predecessor, Henry M. Paulson Jr. Fink was among the first regulators reached out to when they needed urgent advice on pricing exotic securities or predicting the global fallout from the failure of large financial firms like Lehman Brothers.

"We are going to be spending more time inside the Beltway, either by helping the government or, if we are asked, shaping policy and decisions," Fink said. "It is beholden on us on behalf of our clients to have input in Washington" . . .

Some firms are bringing Washingtonians to them.

A year ago, James B. Lockhart III was the top federal regulator overseeing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac when the Bush administration seized the two mortgage finance companies, saving the home loan market from collapse. When Lockhart said last month that he would step down from the Federal Housing Finance Agency, he was snapped up quickly. Today he is vice chairman of WL Ross, which is looking to make money by buying mortgage assets and loans cast off by lenders as unprofitable.

Other former federal officials are scrambling for a piece of the action. Joseph J. Murin, former president of Ginnie Mae, which guarantees securities linked to government-backed mortgages, and former Federal Housing Administration commissioner Brian Montgomery, set up a consulting shop on L Street in mid-August.

As previously documented, Goldman Sachs itself has a virtual lock on the top Treasury positions no matter which party is in power. The vaunted bipartisan "Baucus plan" was literally written by a Baucus aide who just left her position as Vice President of Wellpoint to write the health care reform plan for the Senate -- a revelation which barely caused a ripple. And the Supreme Court is on the verge of striking down the few limits on corporate involvement in our politics, a ruling which may (or may not be) constitutionally defensible but which will flood American politics with so much corporate money that it will give new meaning to the term "oligarchy."

So with this massive pillaging of America's economic security and its control of American government by its richest and most powerful factions growing by the day, to whom is America's intense economic anxiety being directed? To a non-profit group that devotes itself to providing minute benefits to people who live under America's poverty line, and which is so powerless in Washington that virtually the entire U.S. Senate just voted to cut off its funding at the first sign of real controversy -- could anyone imagine that happening to a key player in the banking or defense industry?

Apparently, the problem for middle-class and lower-middle-class Americans is not that their taxpayer dollars are going to prop up billionaires, oligarchs and their corrupt industries. It's that America's impoverished -- a group that is growing rapidly -- is getting too much, has too much power and too little accountability. Anonymous Liberal has a superb post on the manipulative inanity of the Fox-generated ACORN "scandal" (h/t D-day):

Let's take a step back and consider just what ACORN is. It is a non-profit organization whose mission is to empower and improve the lives of poor people. As with many other organizations, ACORN has a number of legally distinct parts, each of which has different sources of funding and engages in different kinds of activities (ACORN's conservative enemies routinely conflate these various parts to imply that ACORN is using federal money for improper political purposes). Since its founding the 70s, ACORN and its employees and volunteers have fought successfully to, among other things, increase minimum wages across the country, increase the quality of public education in poor areas, and protect people from predatory lending practices. In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, ACORN helped rebuild thousands of homes and assisted victims in relocating and finding housing outside of New Orleans. The ACORN activity that has drawn the most conservative ire is its voter registration efforts which, consistent with ACORN's mission, are primarily aimed at low-income voters (who tend to vote Democratic). . . .

But even if you take these film-makers at face value and assume the worst, the reality is that ACORN has thousands of employees and the vast majority of them spend their days trying to help poor people through perfectly legal means (and receive very little compensation for doing so). Even before yesterday's Senate vote, the amount of federal money that went to ACORN was very small. This is a relatively insignificant organization in the grand scheme of things, but it's an organization that has unquestionably fought over the years to improve the lives of the less fortunate in this country.

That the GOP and its conservative supporters would single out this particular organization for such intense demonization is telling. In September of last year, the entire world came perilously close to complete financial catastrophe. We're still not out of the woods and we're deep within one of the worst recessions in U.S. history. This situation was brought about by the recklessness and greed of our banks and financial institutions, most of which had to be bailed out at enormous cost to the American taxpayer (exponentially more than all of the tax dollars given to ACORN over the years). The people who brought about this near catastrophe, for the most, profited immensely from it. These very same institutions, propped up by the American taxpayer, are once again raking in large profits.

But rather than focus their anger on these folks, conservatives choose to go after an organization composed almost entirely of low-paid community organizers, an organization that could never hope to have even a small fraction of the clout or the ability to affect the overall direction of the country that Wall Street bankers have. ACORN's relative lack of political influence was on full display yesterday, when the U.S. Senate (in which Democrats have a supermajority) not only entertained a vote to defund ACORN, but approved it by a huge margin (with only seven Democrats opposing).

If one were to watch Fox News or listen to Rush Limbaugh -- as millions do -- one would believe that the burden of the ordinary American taxpayer, and the unfair plight of America's rich, is that their money is being stolen by the poorest and most powerless sectors of the society. An organization whose constituencies are often-unregistered inner-city minorities, the homeless and the dispossesed is depicted as though it's Goldman Sachs, Blackwater, Haillburton and combined, as though Washington officials are in thrall to those living in poverty rather than those who fund their campaigns. It's not the nice men in the suits doing the stealing but the very people, often minorities or illegal immigrants, with no political or financial power who nonetheless somehow dominate the government and get everything for themselves. The poorer and weaker one is, the more one is demonized in right-wing mythology as all-powerful receipients of ill-gotten gains; conversely, the stronger and more powerful one is, the more one is depicted as an oppressed and put-upon victim (that same dynamic applies to foreign affairs as well).

It's such an obvious falsehood -- so counter-intuitive and irrational -- yet it resonates due to powerful cultural manipulations. Most of all, what's so pernicious about all of this is that the same interests who are stealing, pillaging and wallowing in corruption are scapegoating the poorest and most vulnerable in order to ensure that the victims of their behavior are furious with everyone except for them.



UPDATE: John Cole highlights what might be the most telling aspect of all of this: demands for a "Special Prosecutor" into Obama's so-called "relationship with ACORN" from the very same circles that vehemently objected to investigations into torture, illegal government spying, politicized prosecutions, military contractor theft, Lewis Libby's obstruction of justice, and virtually every other instance of Bush-era act of criminality. Those, of course, are the very same people who, before that, demanded endless inquiries into Whitewater and Vince Foster's murder. There's nothing more valuable than petty, dramatic "scandals" to distract attention from what is actually taking place.



UPDATE II: The American Spectator's Joseph Lawler responds by claiming that the tea-party movement is every bit as devoted to combating the extreme corporate influences I highlight here as it is the likes of ACORN ("it is the same right wing that uncovered ACORN's crimes that opposed the same marriage of state and big business that Greenwald complains about"). Sorry, but that's just ludicrous. I have no doubt that there are people attending these protests who are non-partisan, non-discriminating and principled in their opposition to government corruption, expansion and excesses. That's because there's no real coherent message to these protests; it's just amorphous anger which likely has numerous causes among the various participating constituents: Ron-Paul libertarians, paleoconservatives, LaRouchians, Southern race resenters, social conservatives, GOP operatives, standard dittohead liberal-haters, etc. Each group has a different agenda, often wildly divergent. The only thing they seem to have in common is that they hate Obama.

But look at who the lead supporters are: Rush Limbaugh, the Murdoch-owned Fox News, Glenn Beck, the right-wing blogosphere and talk radio generally, business groups led by Dick Armey. Does anyone actually believe that was motivates them is concern over the excessive, corrupting influence of Wall Street and large corporations in government? Please. They are pure GOP partisans who are exploiting citizen anger to undermine Democratic politicians in order to return the GOP to political power. It's nothing more noble or profound than that. In fact, many of the movement leaders are among the most vocal advocates for unfettered corporate power. From the expansions of the Surveillance State and endless imperial power to strident opposition to lobbyist reforms, they support the very policies that most empower those corrupting groups and further the government-corporate merger. If they're so concerned about excessive government power, debt and corporate influence and corruption, where were they during the Bush era? Cheering it all on. They didn't discover their "small-government principles" until Barack Obama was inaugurated and it became a means for undermining his administration and recovering from Republican political ruin.

As for ACORN, nobody is apologizing for them or suggesting that they've done nothing wrong. Any group that large will have individuals in it who do bad things. The issue is one of proportion. If someone ostensibly opposes government waste and unfairness in tax policy yet spends most of their time focusing on a tiny group that helps the poor and receives a miniscule amount of government money -- all while ignoring or even revering the enormous, omnipotent industries which eat up trillions in taxpayer waste and dwarf the impact of ACORN by many, many magnitudes -- then any rational person would question what the real motives are [and the claim that ACORN is "Now Eligible for up to $8 billion" is pure Beckian deceit; they (like every other group in the U.S.) are theoretically "eligible" for any stimulus funds in the areas in which they work, but they haven't received a penny of it, and the chances they'd receive all or most of it are, and always have been, zero].

ACORN isn't just being mentioned in passing as something that needs an examination; it's dominating headlines and the obsessions of the Fox News movement, despite the fact that it's a tiny, microscopic drop in the bucket even when assessed by the principles the protesters claim to support (by a vote of 345-75, the Democratic-led House just joined the Senate in voting to cut off all funds to ACORN; I'm sure the courageous Congress will be doing that to Blackwater, KBR, Citibank, lawbreaking telecoms and many other corrupt corporations who own them any moment now). Claiming you're worried about large government and taxpayer waste while fixating on ACORN proves the insincerity of the ostensible concern, let alone doing so while cheering on the same Wall Street banks, defense contractors, and insurance industries that control and expand government power for their own benefit.

-- Glenn Greenwald
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Same old argument.. So if other organizations are corrupt it's OK for ACORN to be corrupt. (As long as your man is in charge.) Nothing but more hypocrisy from the left... Laughing Razz Razz
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First the senate and now the house... Remember that they are both controlled by the left and elections are coming up in a few months... Ah, the hypocrisy continues... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090917/ap_on_go_co/us_congress_acorn
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Same old argument.. So if other organizations are corrupt it's OK for ACORN to be corrupt. (As long as your man is in charge.) Nothing but more hypocrisy from the left... Laughing Razz Razz

Awww, but it's ok to continue to pour money into corrupt companies supported by your side, right? What has been given to ACORN is pocket change compared to what your people have supported. It's just another republican wild goose chase at the taxpayers dime. And the reason democrats continue to go along with the wild good chases is the ridiculous notion that if they give in to republican cry baby paranoia witch hunts, maybe the republicans will care about their causes. What a laugh that is! Most people in the US and even the people at the 9-12 march don't even know what ACORN does. They just know they are "bad" because Glenn Beck told them to think that. Just like that ignorant old man who compared ACORN to Hitler's SS brigade. Razz Weird/Odd tinfoil It's beginning to become more laughable by the minute. These same people who spent millions upon millions of dollars investigating white water and other crazy witch hunts, are the same ones who when they were in power said such witch hunts on them were waste of taxpayers dollars...because they didn't want to be investigated for their horrible spending on companies they owned stock in, torture, etc.. And then when the dems take over again, it's time to find a new whipping boy...ACORN. ACORN and the whole controversy behind it is OLD and it just shows that they are grasping at straws at this point. OMG, the congress and senate are going to cut off their money. Heaven's to Betsy. laugh until I cry As you can see from ACORN's own site, they are laughing the whole thing off because it is so stupid. I've been watching Fox News lately as an experiment and you know what I found out? Your talking points go right along with what they are whining about each day. Turn it off Lucas, it's not reality, it's newsertainment and you are being swept up by it. Take a real good look at just how important ACORN is compared to the other issues that are going on right now and hopefully you will see it's not real high up on the priorities list. It's just another whipping boy for the republican party. Once they destroy that, like they do so many other things, another program will pop up in it's place and nobody will say boo about it unless Fox News, Rush or some other brain-rotting media figure says to. Right now we need to worry about things that matter like uninsured people getting health insurance and getting our troops out of two wars we are losing. ACORN...who cares? Rolling Eyes
PS It's obvious you didn't even take the time to read the whole article I posted above or you are so close-minded that you don't see how crazy this whole situation is.
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So you don't care that ACORN is corrupt???
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Lucas McCain wrote:
So you don't care that ACORN is corrupt???

You obviously don't understand what I just wrote so I'm not wasting more time trying to explain it again. Rolling Eyes
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Maybe I just missed it.. Do you support ACORN or not???? Easy question.. YES or NO??
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Hilarious... Obama tries to dodge ACORN questions... Says he didn't know they were getting Fed. money... Laughing Laughing Laughing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxwSUJ0iahI
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