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+8AnitaBeer Pat Garrett gringaloca Judge Roy Bean Venus03 Mongo Annie Oakley The Drifter 12 posters | |
Grade president Obama's performance - first 100 days | 1.) A | | 10% | [ 2 ] | 2.) B | | 29% | [ 6 ] | 3.) C | | 14% | [ 3 ] | 4.) D | | 10% | [ 2 ] | 5.) F | | 29% | [ 6 ] | 6.) F- (he should be impeached) | | 10% | [ 2 ] |
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The Drifter Wrangler
Posts : 226 Join date : 2009-04-21
| Subject: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sat Apr 25, 2009 1:43 am | |
| I thought that I would post this thread/poll for everyone to grade President Obama's job peformance for his first 100 days. Everyone has their own opinions so this is just a poll to grade him and tell why should you want to.
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| | | Annie Oakley Moderator
Location : Bedford, KY Posts : 654 Age : 50 Join date : 2009-04-12
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:54 am | |
| I gave him a B. I don't think that we can judge the stimulus package yet. I do like Pres. Obama's handling/discussion with forgein leaders. Of course, I have never been a fan of "it's my way or the highway" mantra. | |
| | | Mongo Wrangler
Location : Mong like candy Posts : 311 Join date : 2009-04-13
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:34 am | |
| I gave him an F because of the way he handled the Stimulus Package and the fact that I think quadrupling the deficit is a pretty dumb way to approach the problem. With all due respect, Annie Oakley, I felt his handling of that was pretty much "it's my way or the highway". He also used fear mongering on the American people in this whole economy situation to get what he wanted. I also gave him an F for his comments about the U.S. not being a Christian country anymore while on Muslim soil. A comment I totally disagree with, btw. | |
| | | The Drifter Wrangler
Posts : 226 Join date : 2009-04-21
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:42 pm | |
| My grade of "D" was based on a few things, I may had given him a "C" up untill a few weeks ago. .............. Yes, Mr. Obama inherited a bad economy and two wars, no doubt about that so I went into it giving him lead way. President Obama has since tripled (and growing) the national debt, that fact cannot be placed on the previous administration. all of the spending is strictly his work. His handling of the stimulus package imo is an all out joke. One suggestion......Mr. Obama, you should really put members in your cabinet that actually don't cheat on and pay their own taxes before you go to messing with ours. A secretary of the treasury probably shoukd have to pay his taxes, don't you think? How can you expect for the U.S. public to help straighten up and change ways when you can't even control your own house (cabinet)? President Obama going over and "bowing" to Arab Kings, hugging up to sworn U.S. enemies and accepting their anti U.S. pieces of trash they call a book is an all out joke and slap in the face to America. Why doesn't he bow to the people who has elected him? Cutting the missle program when North Korea is shooting up missles capable of carrying nuclear war heads. Nice move, that makes sense . Those are just acouple of things, imo (and I pray that I am wrong) this man and people like Pelosi, Feinstein, Schumer are lading this country into a "goverment controlled society". Sometimes it really seems that he is wanting to bankrupt the country so he can have goverment controlled everything.....pure socialism at it's best imo. This latest flip-flop and bowing to presssure from others about waterboarding is pathetic. President Obama, Pelosi and others are spittiing in our military's face and weakening this country by making our methods,secrets public. Absolute travesty! Obama has absolutely NO idea of how to run the military and he is commander and chief. Just like Clinton, he is the best friend of the people who hate us and want to kill americans and destroy our way of life. Obama, with his policies and actions imo is helping them all he can and inviting more attacks. Say what you want about Bush (I certainly disagree with some things) but he and his administration kept our butts safe since 9/11 with no attacks on our soil since. .............(and oh by the way, Pelosi is flat out lying about her not knowing about the tactics used, she ws on the commitie that was brifed on what was going on around 30 times! She voiced no oppositon, approved it and voted for it.) My grade of "D" is that high because this has only been 100 days, he is rapidly working on lowering that high mark from me. | |
| | | Venus03
Posts : 8 Join date : 2009-04-23
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:08 pm | |
| I gave him a B. He hit the ground running when we took office and has been very busy trying to help America, from the s-chip program to closing Guantanamo Bay to trying to better America's world reputation to all the many press conferences we've had( he gets an A from me on commucication). I also give him a B, because agree or disagree with the stimulus pkg and/or his prososed budget, he is taking action. Many of his critics don't have plan for how to fix the economy either. At least he is acting on it. The Republican "guidelines" was a joke...no numbers in it at all except for taxes.I will take action over inaction any day. As for spending, I don't like the deficit growing either , however, you are not going to get out of a mess like this by not spending anything. that is just unrealistic, I believe. And I am 100 % in favor of trying to push the healthcare pkg despite the cost. Once the initial cost is done, it will actually cost less in the future and actually be better for the people of America. I also am willing to give this administration some time...100 days is not enough...We may not see much progress for a long time because of how big the hole is that we have to climb out of. I will judge him again at 1 year. | |
| | | Judge Roy Bean Founder
Location : I want an official Red Ryder, carbine action, two-hundred shot range model air rifle! Posts : 572 Age : 63 Join date : 2009-04-12
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:24 pm | |
| - Venus03 wrote:
- I gave him a B. He hit the ground running when we took office and has been very busy trying to help America, from the s-chip program to closing Guantanamo Bay to trying to better America's world reputation to all the many press conferences we've had( he gets an A from me on commucication). I also give him a B, because agree or disagree with the stimulus pkg and/or his prososed budget, he is taking action. Many of his critics don't have plan for how to fix the economy either. At least he is acting on it. The Republican "guidelines" was a joke...no numbers in it at all except for taxes.I will take action over inaction any day. As for spending, I don't like the deficit growing either , however, you are not going to get out of a mess like this by not spending anything. that is just unrealistic, I believe. And I am 100 % in favor of trying to push the healthcare pkg despite the cost. Once the initial cost is done, it will actually cost less in the future and actually be better for the people of America. I also am willing to give this administration some time...100 days is not enough...We may not see much progress for a long time because of how big the hole is that we have to climb out of. I will judge him again at 1 year.
Action just for the sake of action is a costly and a stupid thing to do, IMO. And that's exactly what the President did. Push the health care package Obama wants on top of his outlandish spending already and this country will go broke. Digging a bigger hole isn't the answer, but exactly what he and the Dems seem to want to do. Frightening! | |
| | | gringaloca Trail Boss
Location : Firmly planted in reality Posts : 1139 Age : 50 Join date : 2009-04-18
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:21 pm | |
| - Venus03 wrote:
- I gave him a B. He hit the ground running when we took office and has been very busy trying to help America, from the s-chip program to closing Guantanamo Bay to trying to better America's world reputation to all the many press conferences we've had( he gets an A from me on commucication). I also give him a B, because agree or disagree with the stimulus pkg and/or his prososed budget, he is taking action. Many of his critics don't have plan for how to fix the economy either. At least he is acting on it. The Republican "guidelines" was a joke...no numbers in it at all except for taxes.I will take action over inaction any day. As for spending, I don't like the deficit growing either , however, you are not going to get out of a mess like this by not spending anything. that is just unrealistic, I believe. And I am 100 % in favor of trying to push the healthcare pkg despite the cost. Once the initial cost is done, it will actually cost less in the future and actually be better for the people of America. I also am willing to give this administration some time...100 days is not enough...We may not see much progress for a long time because of how big the hole is that we have to climb out of. I will judge him again at 1 year.
I agree with you 100%. The republicans were so against his plan but what did they offer up? More of the same minus any numbers. I think after eight years of failure and considering that they were the ones who got us in the financial shape we are in, asking them to solved the problem is incredibly foolish. And the health care plan should be his #2 priority. I have so many loved ones who have no health insurance and who are suffering because they can't go to the doc when they are sick. Our country is better than that. All our people deserve the right to health care without having to file bankruptcy after the treatment. That's one of the things that put our economy in the hole to begin with. | |
| | | Venus03
Posts : 8 Join date : 2009-04-23
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:28 pm | |
| Judge Roy Bean wrote, "Action just for the sake of action is a costly and a stupid thing to do, IMO. And that's exactly what the President did. Push the health care package Obama wants on top of his outlandish spending already and this country will go broke. Digging a bigger hole isn't the answer, but exactly what he and the Dems seem to want to do. Frightening"
Action for action's sake can be a bad thing, but there is a plan to his actions and an end he sees if the actions are carried out. which make them worth trying. Again, ask economists, and a good majority of them will tell you that we can't stop spending totally. Our economy needs money put into it, and if consumers aren't doing it and the government isn't doing it, everything will go bust alot quicker and in a lot worse way. I don't agree with all of the President's spending, but let's be real: the Republicans who are so anti spending have offered NOTHING in the way of solutions or sugestions. And by the way, the Dems don't want to spend us into oblivion...that's Republican spin. Also, I have done lots of reading and research, and a healthcare plan , while costly in the beginning , will not be as costly in the long run as we care for our people. Think what you want, b/c I won't change your mind, and you certainly aren't going to change mine, however, we are supposed to be guaranteed life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness and healthcare falls under life. We are the greatest country in the world and there is absolutely NO reason not to have a healthcare plan of some sort. Ity is shameful, that we don't take better care of our people. | |
| | | The Drifter Wrangler
Posts : 226 Join date : 2009-04-21
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:17 am | |
| - Judge Roy Bean wrote:
- Action just for the sake of action is a costly and a stupid thing to do, IMO. And that's exactly what the President did.
Push the health care package Obama wants on top of his outlandish spending already and this country will go broke. Digging a bigger hole isn't the answer, but exactly what he and the Dems seem to want to do. Frightening! I 100% agree. I was personally embarrassed at the President Obama's "apology" tour . This country has nothing to apologize to anyone for and I certainly do not apologize for an administration that kept us safe after 9/11 and appreciate what they did and by whatever means they did it to keep America safe and free! Mr. Obama offered up nothing to anyone and all he did accomplish was to make America look weak in the eyes of the terrorist along with other nations. This is the United States of America......not the do nothing wimps in France! I will also add that the so called "dems" of today are a far cry from a true democrat. I don't think that there is a democratic party today. They should add the "Liberal" party to seperate the ones that have obviously taken over the democratic party. I know plenty of people that I consider very good people that are democrats and I grew up in a family that I love and am proud of that are a long line of democrats. I can assure you that they do not go along with 90% or more of the junk that this day and times democratic/liberal party is pushing. Todays liberals seem far closer to socialist to me. I am not against "true" democrats at all. I am against today's liberal party that call themselves democrats and as Forrest Gump would say......."that's all I have to say about that" . I have vented and am off my soap box now.
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| | | Annie Oakley Moderator
Location : Bedford, KY Posts : 654 Age : 50 Join date : 2009-04-12
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:32 am | |
| Drifter, did you want this thread to be a discussion of people's scores/reasons or just to let each person give their own score? I wanted to ask before I commented on others' posts. | |
| | | gringaloca Trail Boss
Location : Firmly planted in reality Posts : 1139 Age : 50 Join date : 2009-04-18
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:55 pm | |
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| | | Annie Oakley Moderator
Location : Bedford, KY Posts : 654 Age : 50 Join date : 2009-04-12
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:44 pm | |
| I think that it is difficult to place blame for 9/11 happening on Bush's watch solely on him. If we (heaven forbid) were to suffer a terrorist attack in the fall of this year, would some still blame Bush for this, saying that he was president for 8 years prior, with Obama just being president for a few months?
I guess it's the scientist in me coming out, but there are too many variables to be able to determine which president should get the blame, if any should, really. | |
| | | Pat Garrett Homesteader
Location : Richmond, Ky Posts : 66 Age : 66 Join date : 2009-04-26
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:16 pm | |
| I give him a b. I wish they would slow down a little and not try to do so much so fast. | |
| | | Judge Roy Bean Founder
Location : I want an official Red Ryder, carbine action, two-hundred shot range model air rifle! Posts : 572 Age : 63 Join date : 2009-04-12
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:26 pm | |
| - Pat Garrett wrote:
- I give him a b. I wish they would slow down a little and not try to do so much so fast.
Welcome to the Outpost, Pat! Glad to have you!! | |
| | | Pat Garrett Homesteader
Location : Richmond, Ky Posts : 66 Age : 66 Join date : 2009-04-26
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:34 pm | |
| - Judge Roy Bean wrote:
- Pat Garrett wrote:
- I give him a b. I wish they would slow down a little and not try to do so much so fast.
Welcome to the Outpost, Pat! Glad to have you!! Thanks for the welcome. | |
| | | gringaloca Trail Boss
Location : Firmly planted in reality Posts : 1139 Age : 50 Join date : 2009-04-18
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:36 pm | |
| - Annie Oakley wrote:
- I think that it is difficult to place blame for 9/11 happening on Bush's watch solely on him. If we (heaven forbid) were to suffer a terrorist attack in the fall of this year, would some still blame Bush for this, saying that he was president for 8 years prior, with Obama just being president for a few months?
I guess it's the scientist in me coming out, but there are too many variables to be able to determine which president should get the blame, if any should, really. I agree! And I'm sorry if I sound like I put all the blame on Bush alone but I do believe that saying that he has kept us "safe" is pushing it a little. lol. There are many things that led to what happened on 9-11. Many people dropped the ball. But when it comes to Hurricane Katrina and the economy... Bush and his picks to run this country really blew it BIG TIME. Thank God he didn't get his wish to privatize social security. There would be a lot of old folks living in homeless shelters by now. | |
| | | Mongo Wrangler
Location : Mong like candy Posts : 311 Join date : 2009-04-13
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:49 pm | |
| - gringaloca wrote:
- How did the Bush adminstration keep us safe? I'm just curious. By ignoring all the warning signs about September 11th and not being prepared? You know Bush was our president when those planes crashed into the towers and the pentagon. Not a very good job of keeping us safe there Mr. Bush. Or was it when Hurricane Katrina hit and they didn't get water to the people trapped in the dome for five days, while Bush was busy attending birthday parties and clearing brush on his ranch?
Blaming Bush for Sep. 11th is comical at best. I mean, seriously, I can tell you're more intelligent than that, why let your hatred of a president take away from that? Getting water to people wasn't Bush's job either, come on. The blame lays heavy at the feet of those that ignored the warnings to get out. - gringaloca wrote:
- Or was it when he took us into a war based on lies that has killed thousands of our own soldiers and innocent civilians and has created untold amounts of new people to hate us and want to attack us for killing off their entire family? That doesn't sound like he kept us safe at all. Sounds like he dropped the ball and put us in a worse situation. And being diplomatic isn't showing weakness, it is showing that we have a BRAIN and don't want the whole world to hate us. We are the most powerful country in the world but that doesn't mean we don't need to keep on making allies.
He didn't take us into a war based on lies, he sent out troops in on what turned out to be bad intel, intel that the vast majority of the Democrats agreed with. Remember? - gringaloca wrote:
- Rome fell and so can we. And it doesn't help that Bush drove our economy into the ground thus weakening us financially. I guess I'm getting tired of people thinking that we are some big bad butt country that can go around flexing our muscles and looking like the alpha dog. This isn't a Bruce Willis movie.
Bush also isn't solely responsible for the economy, in fact there are numerous Democrats and Republicans that can take the heat for that. I guess with your way of thinking, Bush is responsible for the poor global economy as well. | |
| | | Venus03
Posts : 8 Join date : 2009-04-23
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:20 pm | |
| - Mongo wrote:
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Getting water to people wasn't Bush's job either, come on. The blame lays heavy at the feet of those that ignored the warnings to get out.
[]He didn't take us into a war based on lies, he sent out troops in on what turned out to be bad intel, intel that the vast majority of the Democrats agreed with. Remember?
Mongo also wrote: Bush also isn't solely responsible for the economy, in fact there are numerous Democrats and Republicans that can take the heat for that. I guess with your way of thinking, Bush is responsible for the poor global economy as well.[/quote] On getting water to the people: The buck stops with the president . Yes, the people should have left, and yes FEMA's director dropped the ball, but so did the President. On the war: Come on. He was going to go to War with Iraq no matter what b/c he wanted to one up daddy and get Saddam. And it wasn't , from my knowledge, just bad intel, it was fabricated intel. We were told what they wanted us to know. The country was misled. That has been proven. What he should have done if he really wanted to help protect us is to concentrate solely on Afghanistan. That is where the Taliban and their leaders mostly were, but the Bush administration had their own agenda. If we had been in Afghanistan(where we should have been), we may not be faced now with the problem of the Taliban trying to take over Islamasbad and all of Pakistan, who BTW is a nuclear power(That means TROUBLE!) Not to mention, that if we had defeated them or contained them better in Afghanistan, they may not have grown as strong or gained as many new members as they have. On the economy:I agree that Bush isn't sloely responsible for the bad economy. That fall downward started alot earlier, even in the Clinton administration, there were things that occurred, especially with the housing market, that I think, lended a hand to today's turmoil. however, Former president Bush didn't do enough in his 8 years to help us with any domestic policy, because he was too busy with the war. The homefront was basically ignored. | |
| | | AnitaBeer Homesteader
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| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:35 pm | |
| He's done zip to impress me. | |
| | | Annie Oakley Moderator
Location : Bedford, KY Posts : 654 Age : 50 Join date : 2009-04-12
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:48 pm | |
| Ok...Hurrican Katrina issue. I feel like I need to say something.
Some people that live in cities don't own vehicles. They use public transporation or their own two feet to get around. It is not cost effective for them to use vehicles. Again, we are talking about people that don't own cars. This is very different from what we ourselves are used to. I can hop in my car and leave whenever I want and go wherever I want.
So, what happens when there are hurricane warnings and you don't have a vehicle to leave the area? Take a bus and leave? The bussing lines had shut down. Walk out on your own two feet? How far would you get?
I'm not blaming any administration for not moving these people out. Sometimes disasters happen quicker than you can reasonably make arrangements to do something like that. However, I do have a problem with how long of a delay it took to provide immediate assistance in delivering food and water for those that stayed behind. | |
| | | Annie Oakley Moderator
Location : Bedford, KY Posts : 654 Age : 50 Join date : 2009-04-12
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:49 pm | |
| For those that gave "F's" what score would you give him for doing nothing? | |
| | | Judge Roy Bean Founder
Location : I want an official Red Ryder, carbine action, two-hundred shot range model air rifle! Posts : 572 Age : 63 Join date : 2009-04-12
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:54 pm | |
| - Annie Oakley wrote:
- For those that gave "F's" what score would you give him for doing nothing?
An F, that's equal to doing what he has though. Nothing in that stimulus package is going to stimulate anything. The deficit he's creating after only 100 days scares the hell out of me. Can you imagine after 4 years? | |
| | | Venus03
Posts : 8 Join date : 2009-04-23
| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:21 pm | |
| - Judge Roy Bean wrote:
- Annie Oakley wrote:
- For those that gave "F's" what score would you give him for doing nothing?
An F, that's equal to doing what he has though. Nothing in that stimulus package is going to stimulate anything. The deficit he's creating after only 100 days scares the hell out of me. Can you imagine after 4 years? Nothing? Where have you been the past hundred days? S- chip is nothing? I totally disagree. I won't rehash my previous posts , but He has done things...what it boils down to is that the people who seem to give him an F because he quote" hasn't done anything" is mainly b/c IMO they don't agree with anything he has done...there's a difference... | |
| | | AnitaBeer Homesteader
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| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:30 pm | |
| - Venus03 wrote:
- Nothing? Where have you been the past hundred days? S- chip is nothing? I totally disagree. I won't rehash my previous posts , but He has done things...what it boils down to is that the people who seem to give him an F because he quote" hasn't done anything" is mainly b/c IMO they don't agree with anything he has done...there's a difference...
Completely overshadowed by what he's done to the deficit, as I'm sure the Judge will agree. | |
| | | Judge Roy Bean Founder
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| Subject: Re: President Barack H. Obama, the first 100 days Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:37 pm | |
| - Venus03 wrote:
- Nothing? Where have you been the past hundred days? S- chip is nothing? I totally disagree. I won't rehash my previous posts , but He has done things...what it boils down to is that the people who seem to give him an F because he quote" hasn't done anything" is mainly b/c IMO they don't agree with anything he has done...there's a difference...
I've been right here watching him spend at a pace I don't think we'll ever recover from. SCHIP will now be more of a burden on us because of his stupidity with spending. How can anyone agree with what he's done to the deficit? The only thing I can figure is they're simply being partisan. | |
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