Ba-Bye GM.

1. Just as President Roosevelt did after the attack on Pearl Harbor, the President must tell the nation that we are at war and we must immediately convert our auto factories to factories that build mass transit vehicles and alternative energy devices. Within months in Flint in 1942, GM halted all car production and immediately used the assembly lines to build planes, tanks and machine guns. The conversion took no time at all. Everyone pitched in. The fascists were defeated.

We are now in a different kind of war -- a war that we have conducted against the ecosystem and has been conducted by our very own corporate leaders. This current war has two fronts. One is headquartered in Detroit. The products built in the factories of GM, Ford and Chrysler are some of the greatest weapons of mass destruction responsible for global warming and the melting of our polar icecaps. The things we call "cars" may have been fun to drive, but they are like a million daggers into the heart of Mother Nature. To continue to build them would only lead to the ruin of our species and much of the planet.

The other front in this war is being waged by the oil companies against you and me. They are committed to fleecing us whenever they can, and they have been reckless stewards of the finite amount of oil that is located under the surface of the earth. They know they are sucking it bone dry. And like the lumber tycoons of the early 20th century who didn't give a damn about future generations as they tore down every forest they could get their hands on, these oil barons are not telling the public what they know to be true -- that there are only a few more decades of useable oil on this planet. And as the end days of oil approach us, get ready for some very desperate people willing to kill and be killed just to get their hands on a gallon can of gasoline.

President Obama, now that he has taken control of GM, needs to convert the factories to new and needed uses immediately.

2. Don't put another $30 billion into the coffers of GM to build cars. Instead, use that money to keep the current workforce -- and most of those who have been laid off -- employed so that they can build the new modes of 21st century transportation. Let them start the conversion work now.

3. Announce that we will have bullet trains criss-crossing this country in the next five years. Japan is celebrating the 45th anniversary of its first bullet train this year. Now they have dozens of them. Average speed: 165 mph. Average time a train is late: under 30 seconds. They have had these high speed trains for nearly five decades -- and we don't even have one! The fact that the technology already exists for us to go from New York to L.A. in 17 hours by train, and that we haven't used it, is criminal. Let's hire the unemployed to build the new high speed lines all over the country. Chicago to Detroit in less than two hours. Miami to DC in under 7 hours. Denver to Dallas in five and a half. This can be done and done now.

4. Initiate a program to put light rail mass transit lines in all our large and medium-sized cities. Build those trains in the GM factories. And hire local people everywhere to install and run this system.

5. For people in rural areas not served by the train lines, have the GM plants produce energy efficient clean buses.

6. For the time being, have some factories build hybrid or all-electric cars (and batteries). It will take a few years for people to get used to the new ways to transport ourselves, so if we're going to have automobiles, let's have kinder, gentler ones. We can be building these next month (do not believe anyone who tells you it will take years to retool the factories -- that simply isn't true).

7. Transform some of the empty GM factories to facilities that build windmills, solar panels and other means of alternate forms of energy. We need tens of millions of solar panels right now. And there is an eager and skilled workforce who can build them.

8. Provide tax incentives for those who travel by hybrid car or bus or train. Also, credits for those who convert their home to alternative energy.

9. To help pay for this, impose a two-dollar tax on every gallon of gasoline. This will get people to switch to more energy saving cars or to use the new rail lines and rail cars the former autoworkers have built for them.

Well, that's a start. Please, please, please don't save GM so that a smaller version of it will simply do nothing more than build Chevys or Cadillacs. This is not a long-term solution. Don't throw bad money into a company whose tailpipe is malfunctioning, causing a strange odor to fill the car.

100 years ago this year, the founders of General Motors convinced the world to give up their horses and saddles and buggy whips to try a new form of transportation. Now it is time for us to say goodbye to the internal combustion engine. It seemed to serve us well for so long. We enjoyed the car hops at the A&W. We made out in the front -- and the back -- seat. We watched movies on large outdoor screens, went to the races at NASCAR tracks across the country, and saw the Pacific Ocean for the first time through the window down Hwy. 1. And now it's over. It's a new day and a new century. The President -- and the UAW -- must seize this moment and create a big batch of lemonade from this very sour and sad lemon.

Yesterday, the last surviving person from the Titanic disaster passed away. She escaped certain death that night and went on to live another 97 years.

So can we survive our own Titanic in all the Flint Michigans of this country. 60% of GM is ours. I think we can do a better job.

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^ Now that's what I call funny right there.. That's great humor..

I won't even ask what's funny about it. There's no point. You are going to act like this out of spite so do your best.
The US better be doing some changes really quick with the auto industry or we are no longer going to be a super power and that's not funny at all.

Michale Moore? You can't be serious, gringa. The man is a complete idiot! That's not even good entertainment!

As much as you rail against Rush, which is fine with me, you post something from the biggest moron to ever put something in print or on film.

The lot of those are terrible ideas and the rest are terrible ideas for GM. Though, I would one day like to see this country take advantage of high-speed rail, it shouldn't come from a government takeover of an auto company.

Ja'far wrote:

The lot of those are terrible ideas and the rest are terrible ideas for GM. Though, I would one day like to see this country take advantage of high-speed rail, it shouldn't come from a government takeover of an auto company.

I totally agree, Ja'far.

Mongo wrote:

Michale Moore? You can't be serious, gringa. The man is a complete idiot! That's not even good entertainment!

As much as you rail against Rush, which is fine with me, you post something from the biggest moron to ever put something in print or on film.

Michael Moore!!!!! the man is a bonified basket case. The man is so strung out he lost touch with reality a loooooooonnng time ago. . Should yo not believe me, just ask the voices in his (Moore's) head and they will tell you so.

Mihael Moore is perfect example of this administrations way of thinking..... This is killing me!! Best joke I've heard in a very long while.......

So that's how it works on here? Can't laugh at yourselves but you have no problem laughing at others especially out of spite. The gang mentality on here is enough to make me
I'll quit posting until more liberals appear, then maybe it can be a little more "fair and balanced".
When you are ready to open your minds to others opinions, you can let me know but I have a feeling hell will freeze over first. Take care.

gringaloca wrote:

So that's how it works on here? Can't laugh at yourselves but you have no problem laughing at others especially out of spite. The gang mentality on here is enough to make me
I'll quit posting until more liberals appear, then maybe it can be a little more "fair and balanced".
When you are ready to open your minds to others opinions, you can let me know but I have a feeling hell will freeze over first. Take care.

Are you ready????

^ Very good question.

Mine has been open all along. You've just been too busy disagreeing with all that I say to notice. Obviously Michael Moore really bothers some of you or your responses wouldn't be so over the top and kinda bizarre. I can see why he makes republicans mad especially republicans who follow Rush, Hannity and the Fixed News bunch. It's time to move on past this childish stuff and talk about the issues like adults. Deal?

Now as far as I'm concerned GM blew it along with all the other American car companies when they started building cheap, throw away cars so people would have to replace them every three years before they fell apart. It boiled down to greed. If they had of kept up with the rest of the world and built dependable, fuel efficient cars instead of big,gas guzzling, ugly hunks of metal, none of this would be happening.

I'll never forgive GM for what they did to Oldsmobile either. I adored my 1980 Cutlass Supreme. She was my baby. When she finally kicked the bucket she had over 200,000 miles on her. I thought that was pretty decent for an American car. Well, in 2000 I bought an Intrigue because I sorta liked the looks of it and wanted another Olds. It was a cheap-o piece of crap. Then the value went through the floor when they decided to do away with the line altogether. So GM really ripped me off. I was lucky enough to be in a car wreck where some idiot t-boned it and totaled it without hurting any of us. Thank goodness I wasn't stuck with it because it was in the shop every other month. It certainly wasn't the solid, dependable car I had so many years before.

GM has done nothing but screw consumers and their employees for decades. It was eventually going to come back to haunt them. I don't know how the CEO and other board members sleep at night but I'm sure they sleep well in their huge mansions, while their employees and customers suffer. Not like they care. One of these days these corporate greedy creeps are going to have to meet their maker and I wonder if he tells them he won't accept their warranties?

gringaloca wrote:

Mine has been open all along. You've just been too busy disagreeing with all that I say to notice. Obviously Michael Moore really bothers some of you or your responses wouldn't be so over the top and kinda bizarre. I can see why he makes republicans mad especially republicans who follow Rush, Hannity and the Fixed News bunch. It's time to move on past this childish stuff and talk about the issues like adults. Deal?

Now as far as I'm concerned GM blew it along with all the other American car companies when they started building cheap, throw away cars so people would have to replace them every three years before they fell apart. It boiled down to greed. If they had of kept up with the rest of the world and built dependable, fuel efficient cars instead of big,gas guzzling, ugly hunks of metal, none of this would be happening.

I'll never forgive GM for what they did to Oldsmobile either. I adored my 1980 Cutlass Supreme. She was my baby. When she finally kicked the bucket she had over 200,000 miles on her. I thought that was pretty decent for an American car. Well, in 2000 I bought an Intrigue because I sorta liked the looks of it and wanted another Olds. It was a cheap-o piece of crap. Then the value went through the floor when they decided to do away with the line altogether. So GM really ripped me off. I was lucky enough to be in a car wreck where some idiot t-boned it and totaled it without hurting any of us. Thank goodness I wasn't stuck with it because it was in the shop every other month. It certainly wasn't the solid, dependable car I had so many years before.

GM has done nothing but screw consumers and their employees for decades. It was eventually going to come back to haunt them. I don't know how the CEO and other board members sleep at night but I'm sure they sleep well in their huge mansions, while their employees and customers suffer. Not like they care. One of these days these corporate greedy creeps are going to have to meet their maker and I wonder if he tells them he won't accept their warranties?

I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but I just can't resist. Please try to see the humor.

In regards to the bolded part of your post. Somebody most definitely got "screwed". The UAW employees used over 17 million dollars for Viagra in 2007. Their company's health insurance covered the cost.

Wow! This gives new meaning to the GM Truck slogan. "Like a Rock".

SKINNYPIG wrote:

gringaloca wrote:

Mine has been open all along. You've just been too busy disagreeing with all that I say to notice. Obviously Michael Moore really bothers some of you or your responses wouldn't be so over the top and kinda bizarre. I can see why he makes republicans mad especially republicans who follow Rush, Hannity and the Fixed News bunch. It's time to move on past this childish stuff and talk about the issues like adults. Deal?

Now as far as I'm concerned GM blew it along with all the other American car companies when they started building cheap, throw away cars so people would have to replace them every three years before they fell apart. It boiled down to greed. If they had of kept up with the rest of the world and built dependable, fuel efficient cars instead of big,gas guzzling, ugly hunks of metal, none of this would be happening.

I'll never forgive GM for what they did to Oldsmobile either. I adored my 1980 Cutlass Supreme. She was my baby. When she finally kicked the bucket she had over 200,000 miles on her. I thought that was pretty decent for an American car. Well, in 2000 I bought an Intrigue because I sorta liked the looks of it and wanted another Olds. It was a cheap-o piece of crap. Then the value went through the floor when they decided to do away with the line altogether. So GM really ripped me off. I was lucky enough to be in a car wreck where some idiot t-boned it and totaled it without hurting any of us. Thank goodness I wasn't stuck with it because it was in the shop every other month. It certainly wasn't the solid, dependable car I had so many years before.

GM has done nothing but screw consumers and their employees for decades. It was eventually going to come back to haunt them. I don't know how the CEO and other board members sleep at night but I'm sure they sleep well in their huge mansions, while their employees and customers suffer. Not like they care. One of these days these corporate greedy creeps are going to have to meet their maker and I wonder if he tells them he won't accept their warranties?

I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but I just can't resist. Please try to see the humor.

In regards to the bolded part of your post. Somebody most definitely got "screwed". The UAW employees used over 17 million dollars for Viagra in 2007. Their company's health insurance covered the cost.

Wow! This gives new meaning to the GM Truck slogan. "Like a Rock".

As the Drifter is fond of saying....

"Now that's funny...I don't care who you are!"

SKINNYPIG wrote:

gringaloca wrote:

Mine has been open all along. You've just been too busy disagreeing with all that I say to notice. Obviously Michael Moore really bothers some of you or your responses wouldn't be so over the top and kinda bizarre. I can see why he makes republicans mad especially republicans who follow Rush, Hannity and the Fixed News bunch. It's time to move on past this childish stuff and talk about the issues like adults. Deal?

Now as far as I'm concerned GM blew it along with all the other American car companies when they started building cheap, throw away cars so people would have to replace them every three years before they fell apart. It boiled down to greed. If they had of kept up with the rest of the world and built dependable, fuel efficient cars instead of big,gas guzzling, ugly hunks of metal, none of this would be happening.

I'll never forgive GM for what they did to Oldsmobile either. I adored my 1980 Cutlass Supreme. She was my baby. When she finally kicked the bucket she had over 200,000 miles on her. I thought that was pretty decent for an American car. Well, in 2000 I bought an Intrigue because I sorta liked the looks of it and wanted another Olds. It was a cheap-o piece of crap. Then the value went through the floor when they decided to do away with the line altogether. So GM really ripped me off. I was lucky enough to be in a car wreck where some idiot t-boned it and totaled it without hurting any of us. Thank goodness I wasn't stuck with it because it was in the shop every other month. It certainly wasn't the solid, dependable car I had so many years before.

GM has done nothing but screw consumers and their employees for decades. It was eventually going to come back to haunt them. I don't know how the CEO and other board members sleep at night but I'm sure they sleep well in their huge mansions, while their employees and customers suffer. Not like they care. One of these days these corporate greedy creeps are going to have to meet their maker and I wonder if he tells them he won't accept their warranties?

I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but I just can't resist. Please try to see the humor.

In regards to the bolded part of your post. Somebody most definitely got "screwed". The UAW employees used over 17 million dollars for Viagra in 2007. Their company's health insurance covered the cost.

Wow! This gives new meaning to the GM Truck slogan. "Like a Rock".

HA HA HA HA HA!!! Now that is funny! Good grief. Like an erection is something that is required to keep on going. Of course, maybe some would say it is but once again....good grief. Now that song is stuck in my head. THANK YOU! And the visual is totally different.

gringaloca wrote:

Mine has been open all along. You've just been too busy disagreeing with all that I say to notice.

We can all agree to disagree with each other.

Annie Oakley wrote:

I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but I just can't resist. Please try to see the humor.

In regards to the bolded part of your post. Somebody most definitely got "screwed". The UAW employees used over 17 million dollars for Viagra in 2007. Their company's health insurance covered the cost.

Wow! This gives new meaning to the GM Truck slogan. "Like a Rock".

As the Drifter is fond of saying....

"Now that's funny...I don't care who you are!"
[/quote] Yes I am and yes that is.

[quote="Big Jake"]

gringaloca wrote:

Mine has been open all along. You've just been too busy disagreeing with all that I say to notice.

We can all agree to disagree with each other. [quote] Yep!